Goulding really is a PoS. Those officials need to be stood down for a round or two as punishment, the decision to call that unsportsmanlike was disgraceful and ruined the game.
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Twitter Reacts To THE “Unsportsmanlike” Foul
- Updated: November 8, 2015
Lets let Twitter tell you…
— Roy Ward (@rpjward) November 8, 2015
— JB78 (@78Jhernandez) November 8, 2015
What am I watching here?? Give the players and 9000 spectators the overtime this game deserves. Can’t stand referees deciding great games,
— Chris Anstey (@ChrisAnstey13) November 8, 2015
@MelbTigerTalk as a basketball fan it's disappointing to see a game finish that way. Hate seeing a game decided by some tough calls.
— Andrew Gaze (@AndrewGaze10) November 8, 2015
— Josh Childress (@JChillin) November 8, 2015
He said he'd leave it to everyone else who saw it. But I'll say it: Melbourne got the home-town call for the win. Shocking, & not good look.
— Marc Hinton (@marchintonffx) November 8, 2015
How on earth is that an unsportsmanlike foul?????? I am completely puzzled!! Really?!?!?! — Anthony Petrie (@Antpetrie17) November 8, 2015
— Danielle Martin (@D_Martin_13) November 8, 2015
An unsportsmanlike!?!?!? That's a tough call to make at this stage of the game
— Greg Hire (@greg4hire) November 8, 2015
Webster blatantly shoved Goulding. It was a foul. Unsportsmanlike was harsh but if the ball isn't in play isn't that the right call? #NBL
— Matthew Storey (@MattJStorey) November 8, 2015
Love you, @NBL, but an unsportsmanlike there – let alone a common foul – was just plain bad
— Olgun Uluc (@OlgunUluc) November 8, 2015
Unbelievable right there. ??????????@NBL
— Adam Gibson (@adamgibson_1) November 8, 2015
I am absolutely speechless. I feel sick. Great game by both teams. But that’s not how basketball is meant to work… — Cameron Gliddon (@CammyGliddon) November 8, 2015
— Andrew Mulligan (@Andrew_Mulligan) November 8, 2015
Nat Where You At
I thought I finally got, but I don't . Majok and Webster foul at the same time, so shots up both ends? Deemed Webster fouled before the ball was in play(didn't happen, but whatever)so automatic unsportsmanlike(not sure what the rule is but he's on offence so not in the spirit of the rule ), shots and possession to Melbourne? So if that's the interpretation then Majok fouled at the same time then it was before the ball was in play and therefore also unsportsmanlike(100% the spirit of the rule)? I'm so confused... Can be sure of one thing, massive choke by ref's? And there is that rule about be to officiate within the spirit of the game or something, so why not do that, and just get on with it
Agreed, definite double foul. The ball was clearly inbounded already. Push and a flop = double foul.
Daniel Dragicevich - correct. According to FIBA rules, it is only unsportsmanlike if it was the defensive player fouling before the inbound pass. Before seeing the footage, I didn't know who had possession. It would have been a regular charge and turnover seeming NZ had the ball. Although, I think ANY foul before the inbound pass should be considered unsportsmanlike. I think the reason why it is only the defensive foul that is unsportsmanlike is because they aren't in possession and are trying to stop the clock as quickly as possible. And I agree, they did get it mixed up. Why they didn't realise the ball had already been inbounded is beyond me. Treat it as a normal charge call. But.....Goulding sold the flop, so in the end, it should have been a double foul. Cody Pound - they definitely overlooked the flop, don't ask me why. But I think it was more a case of "oh, he pushed off before the inbounds pass. That's an automatic unsportsmanlike foul". If they interpreted the rule correctly in the first place, they would have made the right call (double foul).
Correct me if I'm wrong, if the OFFENSIVE player commits a foul before the ball is inbounded, it shouldn't be an unsportsmanlike. Only if the DEFENSE fouls early. I feel like the refs got this mixed up, because surely that foul can't be deemed as excessive contact
It wasn't unsportsmanlike based on the amount of contact, it was purely because it was deemed to be a dead ball since it was 'after' the initial foul. Taking any flop out of the equation, I think the contact was simultaneous enough with the on-ball foul to call it a double foul. It may need to be contact between the same players to call a double foul though (which I'll look into, since I'm curious now).
No unsportsmanlike foul on Goulding for holding Webster while the ball was not inbounded which lead to Webster pushing him at the same time as Majok fouling... Defiantly ruined the game. & then the foul for Holt at the end which yes I think was a foul, but was no different to the other 1000 plays all season that haven't been called a foul. There is 0 consistency this year.
Except they'll never call Goulding for a flop because he is considered to be the best Australian player in the league by the NBL front office
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Just saw the footage. The ball was inbounded before the foul, so disregard what i initially posted. If anything, call it a double foul - one for the push off and one for the flop.
I haven't seen the footage, but i do have 1 question: regardless of the flop, was Webster's "foul" commited before the ball was inbounded? Because if it was, then it is an automatic unsportsmanlike foul under FIBA rules. See attached picture (point 4 under 37.1.1). I have even had a teammate given an unsportsmanlike foul for doing this in a social league. FYI - I am not a fan of either team and it is a disappointing ending of what sounded like an entertaining and tight game.
He did not push off. Ur allowed to put an arm bar up and use ur weight. At no point does him arms fully extend warranting a push. It was a flop. There is no angle were u can muster some case to blame Webster Coz there simply is none. At the end of the day. The first foul that took place was majok. New Zealand should have had 2 free throws game over. The fouls were that simultaneous that you can call one a foul and one offensive. Where the cross the other out which means New Zealand ball from the side. There are several other scenarios that could of taken place rather then the one where the refs dictate the final result of the game.
No, they called the unsportsmanlike when Goulding flopped AFTER the foul on Pledger, and decided it had to be unsportsmanlike because it was during a dead ball situation. It happened well after the inbounds pass
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Yeah and the ref stopped realising the sideline ref had called a foul first If that's an unsportsmanlike foul then so should the Melbourne intentional, which changes how ball is officiated
Goulding is the master of the flop after today's game ... I thought they were cracking down on flopping ???
Redhage always draws the contact where Goulding just pretends there was contact and falls to the ground
I look back to the wildcats v United and the flop he did when big Nate had a finger on him under the ring and he ended up in the corporate boxes afterwards lol if you think redhage is the worst
Must be nice having your team owner also the major shareholder of the league and therefore the refs boss......not sure who the refs are trying to blow the hardest Goulding or Larry
Flop by Chris Goulding for sure New Zealand were robbed with that call plus Jackson getting fouled off that was bullshit call too
If Goulding was fined for flopping like in the NBA he would owe the league a fortune by the end of the season
Cant help but think Chris Galding is the Golden Boy or the Poster boy of the NBL. Hes being kissed on the dick!
He pushed him to create separation to get open for a pass. Happens on every inbound pass in every game. Goulding took a dive. The fouls happened at basically the same time. It's not like Webster hear the whistle and then pushes him.
Fine Goulding for flopping. Absolute disgrace. And that so called foul on holt.... Not sure that pledger could have played any better defense. We want players deciding games not horrid calls from the refs.
Probably the worst call I've seen. If that's an unsportsmanlike foul, all fouls are unsportsmanlike.
Bad call...... yes double foul but def not unsportsmanlike these refs are getting worse they are ruining the game yes they are human but come on they need to know the rules and not go to the score bench and ask is this right ...... Crazy
Agree that Goulding made it look worse but If Webster didn't push off Goulding then there's no reason for the foul
Where do we start with how many wrongs there were and how many chances there were to right it? The side angle shows Webster barley even extended his arms. Goulding hits the deck and milks the call with a FLOP. The refs are discussing the unsportsmanlike call by the ref who messed up - senior ref surely could have over-ridden the unsportsmanlike call. Then, Holt gets a foul call in the final seconds for less contact than Beal recieved in his game winning attempt in the same arena recently. Let it go and we get 5 minutes to let the teams go at it to decide the game. In summary, ref sucked in and hopefully all players are now aware to not do what Chris Goulding has done twice in recent weeks and flop for calls that can decide games.
I think it was unsportsmanlike as it was called just as the ball was thrown into play, hense the ball wasnt actually in play, and as such refs have no choice but to make it unsportsmanlike, thats the rule for an off the ball foul during last 2 min of play. It all happened so quick and at same moment, the other call wasnt unsportsmanlike as the ball was in play due to nz holding the ball. Was literally a matter of half a second difference.
I thought Webster was given the unsportsmanlike foul for shooting Goulding with a shotgun, the way he went flying. Then I remembered it was Goulding and the game was in Melbourne. "They don't foul much" apparently
Why would he push when they have the ball and know there's going to be a foul!?!?! NZ were fouled first and the ref hadn't even blown his whistle to call offensive!!! Ruined a great game!
I wouldn't have called it unsportsmanlike; Goulding definitely accentuated the contact and it didn't seem enough to merit an unsportsmanlike even WITH that. That being said, Webster definitely dug his own grave by pushing off Goulding in the first place, and the refs made the decision based on what they saw. It is what it is, as a Breakers fan.